Friday, 24 May 2013
Whatley Weston & Fox are on Facebook!
https://www.facebook.com/solicitor.worcester we're on facebook - check out our page and like us to keep up to date with our news
Wednesday, 24 April 2013
Family Department | Solicitors Worcester
http://www.wwf.co.uk/services/family-department - check out our new website for factsheets on family law issues
Wednesday, 27 March 2013
Unbundling or unravelling?
The new buzz word of the moment in some legal circles is "unbundling" but could it all lead to matters "unravelling"?
The concept essentially is to offer clients the option of doing parts of the work themselves and paying a Solicitor either for discreet pieces of work or defined parts of a matter.
I can certainly see the benefit to the client in terms of limiting costs but I do think both sides need to be careful that matters don't end up more complicated with the case suffering as a result.
This idea is being discussed over a number of different areas of law but I shall focus on family law, as it is the one I am more familiar with.
Take Divorce as an example. What I mean by that is what lawyers refer to as the "main suit", the paper-process that takes a person from "married" to "divorced". Often misunderstood by clients as encompassing all issues, finances and children as well.
That process is fairly straightforward - yes there are some points that need to be discussed/negotiated but if a Divorce is to proceed undefended i.e. no answer filed by the Respondent (which is not the same as someone disputing what is said about their behaviour but nevertheless agreeing that the marriage has come to an end) then the reality is that the process is defined and why should we not, as lawyers, be able to offer a fixed fee or "unbundled" service to clients?
The level of fixed fee will depend on how much work a client wants to undertake themselves. I know, if i am to do all of the drafting for a client, what is involved and how long it will take me. If a client is being guided by me but undertaking the drafting themselves then there is less certainty about how much input they will need from me in terms of the paperwork.
There has been much discussion about how we can tell whether a client is capable of undertaking the necessary work, how much they understand and whether them undertaking work themselves may put other aspects of the case in jeopardy - that may well be relevant if the client is left to their own devices, entirely unguided or perhaps in other areas.
My view is that each client has a particular relationship with their lawyer and lawyers should be sufficiently adept at client care and client contact to establish a good relationship with each of their clients. It is a matter for discussion between the Solicitor and client as to how work is divided and whether indeed the client wants to do any of the work themselves.
I have had no difficulty with clients opting for our "Guided Divorce". I am clear with them at the outset about our respective responsibilities in terms of paperwork etc. and understand from their feedback that the option of controlling costs by undertaking the preparation of papers themselves has been helpful. Clients feel that they are able to work this way because they know that they have my guidance throughout.
In terms of other matters, I can see that it may be difficult to "unbundle" financial negotiations for example or negotiations concerning child arrangements.
That is twofold, to ask a Solicitor to work on a discreet piece of work, perhaps the preparation of a statement for example, can in fact be counterproductive - the Solicitor will not have been privy to the detail of negotiations and will be unable to advise in the round to ensure that all areas are covered and that the client understands their position and any risks that they face.
This causes a difficulty for lawyers, who are inherently risk averse, because we feel that we are left open to suggestions that we have not fully advised the client about the various possible outcomes or their risks, that there might be some claim raised against us etc. etc.
In addition, fixing a fee for negotiations is difficult because the length and depth of work is an unknown at the outset.
That said, I can see no reason why costs for defined stages of proceedings cannot be set in bands with detailed information given about what that "band" involves. That leaves the client clear about the level of costs that they will incur up to a certain point and allows the Solicitor to work on the matter throughout and not piecemeal, which satisfies us as regards our duty to fully advise etc. etc.
I think the reality is that decisions as to whether firms operate this way going forward will be business decisions and the level of fixed fees, "unbundling" or banded fees will need to be carefully assessed and clear letters to clients detailing the extent of the work being undertaken by the firm and by the client respectively.
The legal landscape is changing, fast, and I do think that more flexibility is required and will be demanded by clients - perhaps especially after the 1st April.
This is a brave new world of legal services but who will have the courage?
The concept essentially is to offer clients the option of doing parts of the work themselves and paying a Solicitor either for discreet pieces of work or defined parts of a matter.
I can certainly see the benefit to the client in terms of limiting costs but I do think both sides need to be careful that matters don't end up more complicated with the case suffering as a result.
This idea is being discussed over a number of different areas of law but I shall focus on family law, as it is the one I am more familiar with.
Take Divorce as an example. What I mean by that is what lawyers refer to as the "main suit", the paper-process that takes a person from "married" to "divorced". Often misunderstood by clients as encompassing all issues, finances and children as well.
That process is fairly straightforward - yes there are some points that need to be discussed/negotiated but if a Divorce is to proceed undefended i.e. no answer filed by the Respondent (which is not the same as someone disputing what is said about their behaviour but nevertheless agreeing that the marriage has come to an end) then the reality is that the process is defined and why should we not, as lawyers, be able to offer a fixed fee or "unbundled" service to clients?
The level of fixed fee will depend on how much work a client wants to undertake themselves. I know, if i am to do all of the drafting for a client, what is involved and how long it will take me. If a client is being guided by me but undertaking the drafting themselves then there is less certainty about how much input they will need from me in terms of the paperwork.
There has been much discussion about how we can tell whether a client is capable of undertaking the necessary work, how much they understand and whether them undertaking work themselves may put other aspects of the case in jeopardy - that may well be relevant if the client is left to their own devices, entirely unguided or perhaps in other areas.
My view is that each client has a particular relationship with their lawyer and lawyers should be sufficiently adept at client care and client contact to establish a good relationship with each of their clients. It is a matter for discussion between the Solicitor and client as to how work is divided and whether indeed the client wants to do any of the work themselves.
I have had no difficulty with clients opting for our "Guided Divorce". I am clear with them at the outset about our respective responsibilities in terms of paperwork etc. and understand from their feedback that the option of controlling costs by undertaking the preparation of papers themselves has been helpful. Clients feel that they are able to work this way because they know that they have my guidance throughout.
In terms of other matters, I can see that it may be difficult to "unbundle" financial negotiations for example or negotiations concerning child arrangements.
That is twofold, to ask a Solicitor to work on a discreet piece of work, perhaps the preparation of a statement for example, can in fact be counterproductive - the Solicitor will not have been privy to the detail of negotiations and will be unable to advise in the round to ensure that all areas are covered and that the client understands their position and any risks that they face.
This causes a difficulty for lawyers, who are inherently risk averse, because we feel that we are left open to suggestions that we have not fully advised the client about the various possible outcomes or their risks, that there might be some claim raised against us etc. etc.
In addition, fixing a fee for negotiations is difficult because the length and depth of work is an unknown at the outset.
That said, I can see no reason why costs for defined stages of proceedings cannot be set in bands with detailed information given about what that "band" involves. That leaves the client clear about the level of costs that they will incur up to a certain point and allows the Solicitor to work on the matter throughout and not piecemeal, which satisfies us as regards our duty to fully advise etc. etc.
I think the reality is that decisions as to whether firms operate this way going forward will be business decisions and the level of fixed fees, "unbundling" or banded fees will need to be carefully assessed and clear letters to clients detailing the extent of the work being undertaken by the firm and by the client respectively.
The legal landscape is changing, fast, and I do think that more flexibility is required and will be demanded by clients - perhaps especially after the 1st April.
This is a brave new world of legal services but who will have the courage?
Monday, 18 March 2013
Legal Aid Cuts fast approaching
Wow,
February has totally past me by I’m afraid – hence the lack of any blog posts –
apologies.
Recently, I
have been amazed about the lack of understanding that there is generally by the
public about the forthcoming cuts to legal aid and what that will mean for
couples separating after 1st April.
I am often
asked by friends, family and professional contacts “how work is going” and I
have spoken with people recently about the challenges that family law as a
whole will face in the coming months/years.
More often
than not, people are surprised to hear that from April there will no longer be
legal aid available for family law matters, save where there has been Domestic
Violence – subject to the client being able to provide the necessary evidence
of that – or for Care proceedings.
This was hit
upon in the press when it was initially proposed but seems to have been lost
amongst other news and has not been highlighted for some time now.
Essentially
it means that the vast majority of separating and divorcing couples will no
longer be able to access legal aid to fund their matters. It is estimated that this will be about 85% of
those cases currently benefitting from legal aid.
It will mean
that for couples facing separation or Divorce where there has been no Domestic
Violence that they face some stark decisions about how to progress with their
Divorce or Separation.
These may be
couples with many assets, no assets but a lot of debt, couples facing disputes
over the arrangements for their children or any other situation in between.
To represent
yourself, perhaps especially in cases concerning arrangements for the children
but equally in cases involving the division of marital assets, is stressful and
frightening. Whilst a Judge will be available to manage the Court process and
explain some of the procedure to couples once proceedings have started it is
not the Court’s job to present any one party’s case or advise about the merits
of their arguments. Outside of the Court process people may feel entirely alone
and unsupported.
In the event
that one party has resources to fund legal representation and the other does
not, it can leave an imbalance in power in terms of negotiations and is likely
to see many more cases progressing to Court proceedings and thereafter to
contested final hearings, as a result of negotiations being ineffective.
The Family
Courts have principles and checklists to follow both in terms of cases
involving children and those concerning the division of marital assets. Add to
that the volume of case law, some of which binds and some which informs the
Court’s decisions, and it is easy to see that the self-representing litigant
may come unstuck.
So…what are
the other options:
1. Research
There are a
number of online resources available now that will explain the process of
Divorce and the issues that you will need to consider on Separation. You may
undertake some research and go it alone.
Consider – a lot of these resources provide
only brief information about the paper process of Divorce and fail to fully
explain important issues around finances or child arrangements.
Be wary of
advice from friends or people down the pub – they may be well-meaning but
frequently have their own perceptions or experiences colouring their view.
2. Mediation
To be
invested in heavily by the government over the coming years, Family Mediation
is a process whereby couples attend joint sessions with an independent Mediator
to discuss the various issues faced on separation – try to resolve their
financial affairs and try to agree arrangements for the children
Legal aid
remains available for Family Mediation if you pass the financial assessment.
You may self-refer or be referred through a Solicitor.
Consider – if you are not eligible for legal
aid then you will have to pay for each session of Mediation, although this is
often more cost effective than full blown negotiations through Solicitors and
can help narrow the issues.
Even if you
reach agreement through Mediation, you will need legal advice to ensure that
your agreement is legally binding – the Mediator will be able to point you in
the right direction and look out for Partnership Schemes between Solicitors and
Mediators that will fix fees for you – there is one in Worcester for example.
3. Middle ground
Some
Solicitors offer a middle ground option in terms of Divorce proceedings which
will see you doing some of the form filling and correspondence yourself whilst
you are guided through by the Solicitor dealing with your case.
This has the
advantages of you being certain of your next steps but controlling the costs.
Your Solicitor will also be able to advise you about any ancillary issues so
that you are clear on your option.
Consider – there will be a cost to this option but it
should be less than asking a Solicitor to fully manage your Divorce proceedings
– expect to pay about £350-£400 + VAT and Court fees of £385.
4. Free initial consultations
Useful and
offered by most Solicitors now, this initial form of consultation should allow
you to gain some information about procedure and the important issues in your
particular case. It is more tailored to you then generic information that you
may find online and you can access it without obligation
Consider - it may leave you informed but more
concerned about representing yourself going forward. Frequently people who
attend to see me for an initial consultation feel clearer on the issues and
their options but feeling that they will need support and guidance going
forward. That is not really a bad thing, better to be informed early on.
5. Instruct a Solicitor
The plus
side to this of course is that you will have a legal professional guiding you
through the minefield that can be Divorce, someone to support you and protect
your best interests and someone to advise you about which of your arguments are
strongest and which are perhaps fuelled by your emotions.
You may wish
to consider instructing a Collaborative Solicitor, and follow the Collaborative
law process.
Consider – there is clearly a cost to
instructing a Solicitor but you should be provided with detailed cost estimates
at the outset and updated about any costs throughout.
Several
Solicitors now offer fixed fee packages or banded costs – so that you know what
your costs will be at each stage of the process. You may also be able to agree
a capped fee with your Solicitor at the outset.
There may be
sources of funding open to you and there are a couple of organisations that
offer loans to cover the cost of financial negotiations and proceedings on
Divorce. Be sure to take financial advice and be clear on the terms of any
loan.
Whichever
option is chosen, Divorce is a difficult and stressful time for all involved,
if possible choose an option that will help you minimise the strain.
Wednesday, 30 January 2013
Costs and control in Divorce
So February is nearly upon us, scary - one month down!
I have struggled this month with diet, exercise and all the new year resolution type things that I was to do but all of that pales into insignificance when I meet new clients struggling with all of that, normal life, children and the prospect of a separation.
Many have been happy that finally they have felt able to do something about the feelings that they have harboured for a long time but even when people have plucked up that courage and taken that step they find themselves trying to deal with a process that is alien to them and the costs that come with it.
I have read in several places over the last month or so that Divorce costs £10,000+ (I have seen that as a statement in itself with no qualification about the level of assets or complexity of the case).
Now whilst I accept that there are some cases that are complex or very contested and which attract alot of legal costs, there are many more that are relatively straightforward and that should not attract anywhere near that amount. It worries me to think that there are people who will shy away from getting the legal advice they need to make an informed decision because of scaremongering about costs.
There is a cost, of course, to obtaining specialist legal advice on Divorce - much as there is a cost to having your car fixed or taking financial advice - but there is also a value to that advice - be it in peace of mind, protection of assets or security for the future.
People going through the process of separation or divorce want control, they want fairness and they want to feel that they are not lost and that they have direction - that is fine but often the sticking point is cost.
In late 2012 I entered a Mediation Partnership with Mediation Worcestershire, along with a few other Solicitors in the area. The concept is that people who attend Mediation to resolve their differences but who naturally require legal advice at some point in that process, will be able to turn to members of the Partnership for that advice at a fixed cost.
The aim is to make sure that couples who are separating have the benefit of control through the Mediation process with access to the specialist legal advice that they need at a cost that is clear.
I am imensely pleased that as a profession as a whole we are trying to ensure that access to legal advice remains open and never will this be more important than post April 2013, when the availability of legal aid for family law cases will be abolished, save for those cases involving Domestic Violence or Care issues.
I know that there is a cost to bear for legal advice but I hope that as this year progresses people do not leave themselves counting the cost of not having had it!
I have struggled this month with diet, exercise and all the new year resolution type things that I was to do but all of that pales into insignificance when I meet new clients struggling with all of that, normal life, children and the prospect of a separation.
Many have been happy that finally they have felt able to do something about the feelings that they have harboured for a long time but even when people have plucked up that courage and taken that step they find themselves trying to deal with a process that is alien to them and the costs that come with it.
I have read in several places over the last month or so that Divorce costs £10,000+ (I have seen that as a statement in itself with no qualification about the level of assets or complexity of the case).
Now whilst I accept that there are some cases that are complex or very contested and which attract alot of legal costs, there are many more that are relatively straightforward and that should not attract anywhere near that amount. It worries me to think that there are people who will shy away from getting the legal advice they need to make an informed decision because of scaremongering about costs.
There is a cost, of course, to obtaining specialist legal advice on Divorce - much as there is a cost to having your car fixed or taking financial advice - but there is also a value to that advice - be it in peace of mind, protection of assets or security for the future.
People going through the process of separation or divorce want control, they want fairness and they want to feel that they are not lost and that they have direction - that is fine but often the sticking point is cost.
In late 2012 I entered a Mediation Partnership with Mediation Worcestershire, along with a few other Solicitors in the area. The concept is that people who attend Mediation to resolve their differences but who naturally require legal advice at some point in that process, will be able to turn to members of the Partnership for that advice at a fixed cost.
The aim is to make sure that couples who are separating have the benefit of control through the Mediation process with access to the specialist legal advice that they need at a cost that is clear.
I am imensely pleased that as a profession as a whole we are trying to ensure that access to legal advice remains open and never will this be more important than post April 2013, when the availability of legal aid for family law cases will be abolished, save for those cases involving Domestic Violence or Care issues.
I know that there is a cost to bear for legal advice but I hope that as this year progresses people do not leave themselves counting the cost of not having had it!
Wednesday, 2 January 2013
New Year, next chapter?
Whilst this festive period may have been a happy time, for
many the added stress, constant planning and financial pressure will have left
their relationships at breaking point.
When the New Year comes round and people stand back to assess their
lives and relationships, many may decide to separate or Divorce.
Rarely do I find that the Christmas period has been the cause of a relationship breakdown and
often separation is something that couples have been discussing between
themselves for quite a while. When another year arrives on the calendar people
think about a new start, new opportunities and new possibilities. It often
seems easier to draw a line in the sand at the end of the old year and try to
be optimistic about the future at the beginning of the new one, whatever
difficulties you might be facing.
Often, the idea of instructing a solicitor may seem 'too big
a step' when all you really want is an understanding of what your options may
be going forward and clients frequently tell me that they have delayed getting
advice because they were concerned about the costs or fearful about feeling
pressured into a certain course of action – presumably having listened to the
media’s view of lawyers generally.
I can only imagine that in 2013, with Legal Aid being
withdrawn by the government for almost all Family Law matters, the number of
people feeling this way will increase. And yet, separation or Divorce is a
major life decision and one that you should make with as much information as
possible.
I offer a free initial consultation on family law issues and
spend time explaining to clients the options and discussing ways forward. I
hope that clients leave more reassured and clearer about their next steps and
they frequently tell me that this is the case, which is good to hear!
Recently, we developed a range of fixed fee options, again,
in the hope of reassuring clients and in anticipation of Legal Aid being
withdrawn, to assist the many people that will require advice after April 2013
but simply cannot afford to pay on the basis of an hourly rate. It remains to
be seen whether many other firms will take the same line but it I clear that
the legal market is changing.
Couples separating will more and more be faced with a vast
array of organisations and firms seeking to offer legal advice – they will have
to decide, do I get advice from my supermarket, an online organisation or a
traditional law firm. Do I want to deal with a call centre, someone over e-mail
or do I value my life and future enough to want the person dealing with it all
to be accessible, someone I can visit face to face and develop trust in?
So I start 2013 positively, having done all I can to enable
our clients to access the advice they need at an affordable cost, and anxious
to see how the legal market will change this year.
Bring on the next 12 months!
Labels:
2013,
Divorce,
fixed fees,
New Year,
Separation,
UK
Tuesday, 4 December 2012
One too many days of Christmas?
So the festive season is
nearly here, there are Christmas displays in shop windows and the
build-up has well and truly begun.
Whilst this for many is a
happy time of year the added stress and debt can put strain on relationships
and cracks may start to appear or become more apparent for those who are not
used to spending long periods with their partner or children.
The constant planning and
pressure for everything to be perfect can leave couples at breaking point and
it is a sad fact that reports of Domestic Violence and people seeking advice
for relationship breakdown often double in the post-Christmas period.
With the recession still in
force, this year may seem particularly difficult for many but nobody wants to suffer upset
at Christmas so how can you try to Christmas proof your relationship?
1. Keep a check on your
alcohol consumption – excessive alcohol can frequently lead to people being
more aggressive/argumentative or expressing views that they may later regret –
alcohol and the pressure of a family Christmas can be a disaster
2. Agree a budget for each
family member or for the children and stick to it – financial pressures are one
of the biggest strains at Christmas and can be source of many arguments, even
in to the New Year when debts need to be paid off
3. If you’re struggling,
refusing to speak to one another, whether that is because you simply can’t bear
it or because you fear it will cause a row, will see tensions build – try and
clear the air about issues as quickly as possible and away from family members.
4. Perspective – with the
added stress and pressure the smallest of things can become a source of major
irritation. Stand back and count to 10, is it that big an issue? If it is then
speak about it, if not, let it go.
It is rare that Christmas is
the cause for a relationship breaking down but it can magnify cracks in a
relationship and be the last straw – if that is the case, seek out specialist
advice in the New Year and remember that friends may be well meaning but they
are frequently wrong or influenced by their own experiences.
For those couples already
separated, particularly with children, the issue of how to deal with Christmas
can raise other difficulties, here are a few tips to help…
1. If you have recently
separated, or even if you have been for some time, rely on your friends and family
for support. Surrounding yourself with close friends will lift your mood and
stop you dwelling on matters.
2. Make Christmas your own –
often when there are children involved, a family will have certain traditions
done each year. Don’t focus on what has always been done, make your own
traditions and memories and move forward
3. Forget the emotion – maybe
you are still processing emotions from the breakdown of your
marriage/relationship try not to let your children sense that over Christmas.
Remember this, as long as children see
both of their parents over the Christmas period they won’t be too concerned
about who they see on Christmas Day – Christmas starts when the presents start
and ends when the presents end – who said Santa can’t leave their presents in 2
houses?
4. Communication is key –
when you separate there will be all sorts of emotions to process and you will
both be feeling them, not necessarily the same ones at the same time.
Communicating with your ex about Christmas presents, arrangements etc. will
enable you and the children to have an enjoyable break.
Subscribe to:
Posts (Atom)